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boogaloo
#1 Posted : Sunday, January 31, 2010 8:04:17 PM Quote
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I have heard that there are certain foods that affect RA - I was told bread and tomatoes should be avoided!

Does anyone know anything about food & RA?

Sue x
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#2 Posted : Sunday, January 31, 2010 8:31:24 PM Quote
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Welcome to the forum Sue.
Diet and RA is one of those grey areas often discussed. Personally I haven't found anything that has a definite adverse effect on me but have read that there are certain things that have an 'inflammatory' effect on the body- refined sugars, fats, refined wheat products but thee are the no nos for a heathy diet anyway. I must admit I do eat a lot of cakes biscuits, sweet stuff, cheese, and certainly my RA has been worse since the over indugences of Christmas- maybe there is some truth in it?

Maria x
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#3 Posted : Sunday, January 31, 2010 8:49:25 PM Quote
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The only thing that affects my arthritis are peanuts! Within a few hours of eating them I start to get pains! It's weird as I believe peanuts are part of the legumes family and yet I'm alright with peas etc.
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#4 Posted : Sunday, January 31, 2010 9:19:28 PM Quote
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well i have been told over and over about diet .And went too a chap who does holisic ? cures you with out drugs .Told he was very good and he is on some things .

Now he charged me £70 and spent an hour and half talking to me and givin me some heat treatment and massage strechs and put me on a diet

no night shades
no peppers no toms no spudes no wheat no dariy no sugar and other stuff and good adivese about how too
make nice meals ( he is a great chef in gluton free )

i was flareing and 4 weeks later worse diet did nothing or the vit pills .Nope what a waste of money .I should had tryed the diet for 8 weeks but i was flareing and poorley .And found it made me worse ..

Later into the R.A GOING TO GROUPS chating on here hearing R.A doc speak .
poff scott says in all his years as an R.A doc he has never found a diet that works Also poff Denton and Dame poff Carol Black says the same thing .

there are 200 types of Arthritis and of course every one is differant so i guess diet may have worked for some .But for R.a no only eating MTX methorexte ha ha that works

Now i am a piggett who eats everything sweets choc junk heathly and no differant .

Christine LOL
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lynneh
#5 Posted : Monday, February 01, 2010 12:36:20 PM Quote
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Hi Sue,

I can't eat cheese or citrus fruit, but find I am OK with tomatoes as long as they are cooked. Also - very strangely - Lemsips are a definite no-no for me! I think it's all trial and error and you have to experiment to find out what works for you.

Lynne x
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#6 Posted : Monday, February 01, 2010 2:45:42 PM Quote
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Hi Sue, welcome to the forum.

I think that what works for one may not work for another. However, I do try to avoid certain foods classified as in the nightshade category: aubergines, potatoes, but find I'm OK with tomatoes. I also try to avoid foods with gluten, refined sugars and carbohydrates, hydrogenated fats and processed foods.

If you do decide to follow a specialist diet, you would need to follow it for at least a couple of months to notice a difference.

I'm hoping that Amanda picks up on your thread as she will be able to recommend a diet book specif to RA.

Good luck,

Love,

Barbara
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amanda_lewin
#7 Posted : Monday, February 01, 2010 4:12:53 PM Quote
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Hi Sue,

This is a controversial question (i love controversy!LOL) and I would LOVE to say diet affects RA but I am beginning to have suspicions...

It is definitely a good idea to keep to a very healthy eating regime, but again, this is a tricky area as what is healthy to some isn't healthy to others!

For us as a family (my personal view) we try and follow (loosely sometimes, rigorously at others!) a special age old diet (...http://www.naturodoc.com/library/nutrition/tradfds.htm)....


.which is pure food, ie NO dietary foods, no processed foods, no white sugar, white flour, and no additives. Basically how people ate thousands of years ago as if one looks back diseases like RA (auto immune problems and such), heart disease, cancers were not as prevalent as they are today. In some societies they are not as rife either.

So, I would always stick to lots of fresh foods and vegetables, as little pre packaged foods as possible and avoid white sugar and flour at all cost!

Dr Patrick Holford's 'Say no to arthritis' (it is not quacky, he just runs through the foods to avoid and the minerals and vitamins to take) is very informative. He did research to look into allergies and wheat and milk were both found more consistently in people with RA.

However, I do not believe in a non-dairy diet (the milk we drink is not good for you but pure milk is etc!) and people with RA need lots of dairy products.

That said I do firmly believe that NO diet will cure RA however I would imagine through eating well and not putting rubbish (all the time!LOL) into our bodies can only make for a healthier lifestyle...and also help to stave off other problems like high BP etc.

Love,

Amanda
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#8 Posted : Monday, February 01, 2010 4:35:22 PM Quote
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The short answer is keep on eating what seems to help and if it definately upsets you stop.

If there was a diet that "Cured" or even treated RA every consultant in the land would have you on it and save the NHS a fortune!

There is evidence that fish oils, ginger and tumeric have anti inflam properties I have had them all and they made no difference.
When I was first ill a company sold me these mush sachets for a fortune to have. I lost weight but no other benefit apart from embarrassement going to see the rheummy explaining that I had been hood winked
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#9 Posted : Monday, February 01, 2010 6:23:08 PM Quote
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Hi
seems to be a individual thing,for me i cartn have only small amount tomatoes,citrus fruit,thats it ok with everything else.
i did try book diets the cure ra naturally one all i got was excess wind and thats it.
so i find just to try eat balance healthy diet is key to make sure getting all my nutrients.
and varation.

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lizziemouse
#10 Posted : Monday, February 01, 2010 6:25:59 PM Quote
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This is an interesting topic, i agree with others it's very individual....
Amanda - your advice is excellent! xx
I have slowly realised i need to avoid too much chocolate... hmmm.... but how much is too much...?
This is much too tricky for a chocoholic to work out!
After several years of flaring up over Easter i eventually realised i really do need to avoid too much "cheap" chocolate................ but that still hasn't stopped me ~ now I just LOVE expensive chocolates!
....and still remain very partial to the odd creme egg,
....or two! ;)
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#11 Posted : Monday, February 01, 2010 10:54:45 PM Quote
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LOL, Lizzie! I am partial (or you could say, fond) of choc myself, too much so. I *try* and eat very dark choc but also have a great weakness for caramel bars and this giant quality streets, the purple ones! LOL

My other vice is wine, in case you didn't know! LOLOL

Hope you're having a good night!

Love,
Amanda
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#12 Posted : Tuesday, February 02, 2010 7:35:40 AM Quote
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Goodness Amanda - i thought you were teetotal?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ;)
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#13 Posted : Tuesday, February 02, 2010 8:13:38 AM Quote
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boogaloo wrote:
I have heard that there are certain foods that affect RA - I was told bread and tomatoes should be avoided!

Does anyone know anything about food & RA?

Sue x


Hiya Sue,

I went on an exclusion diet approx. 20 years ago, eliminating virtually everything, including tap water, salt, pepper etc. and introducing foods back one at a time. All that happened was I lost a lot of weight!

I believe in eating as healthily as I can and keeping my weight down.
Carol
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#14 Posted : Tuesday, February 02, 2010 9:49:12 AM Quote
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gluten makes my hand joints extra red and shiny and swollen. and that's about it, i think.
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#15 Posted : Tuesday, February 02, 2010 10:13:35 AM Quote
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well, I did something silly last night.

Had a chinese takeaway and had to go to bed! AGONY. It really is the only thing that upsets me. it is the MSG in it Im sure.

Ugh!

I do LOVE Chinese food.

be making my own from now on I think!

Jenni x
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#16 Posted : Tuesday, February 02, 2010 12:36:31 PM Quote
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This is what I try to do/believe.

I think that been sensible, eating healthy and exercise/activity is the way to go. Although I just manage the first, I havent been able to get to the exercise bit no matter what I try I rather clean the toilet with a toothbrush. Blushing Tough I am farily active, eg have interests and things to do during the week.

If possible to eat organic and cut down on takeaways (jenni!) BigGrin or processed foods with all their additives. I use to have 3 takeaways a week as too knackered to cook and what helped me change my habit was realising that I had more control on what I eat if I make it myself as I dont know where the food is sourced from or indeed what nastys if bought ready cooked. Watching Gordon Ramsey and seeing such programs involving restaurant/takeaways hygene stops me when I pick up the phone to call in an order. Though I have my moments! I make sure I have back up stuff in the freezer/cupboard. I think this has helped me control my weight.

Think that perhaps people may have food allergies that may cause the RA to be worse but that its not necessarily the same for everyone. I try not to eat too much carbos and red meat as they just knock me out when my system is trying to digest, so am moving my diet away from meat to more veg and fish, which is not only good for me but for the planet too. ThumpUp
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#17 Posted : Wednesday, February 03, 2010 6:51:06 PM Quote
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Hi Sue

I asked my doctor about this and he said there is no indication that diet affects RA sufferers. However, as is obvious from the replies you've got, certain things do seem to affect some people. It may be a good idea to keep a food diary alongside a pain diary and see what makes a difference, if anything. I think I might actually try it myself, now I've come up with such a brilliant idea BigGrin (I didn't read all the replies completely, probably someone's already said thisSad ).

Anthea x
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#18 Posted : Thursday, February 04, 2010 10:19:26 PM Quote
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i love tomatoes bread potatoes potato scones o so lovely also love vodka wine brandy what hope is there for me lol but go to bed happy 3 times a week lol when i go out with friends,. and deal with RA the next day. must add this doesnt happen every week but o joy of waiting for it to come round sylviaLove
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#19 Posted : Thursday, February 04, 2010 10:22:39 PM Quote
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I love your post, Sylvia!

LOL

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And why not Sylvia!
Live for today ThumpUp

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